|Roma Perceptions of death The majority of Finnish Roma belong to the Lutheran Church. Some of the Roma is supporters of free religious directions. Because of the strong vibrant memories related to the common home, the family moves if possible to another home. The deceased’s things and clothes are destroyed. Only jewelry and handmade souvenirs such as sheets with laces are preserved. Photographs of the deceased are also very important memorabilia. These death associated practices and the destruction of the deceased’s personal items have nothing to do with fear of the deceased, but Roma are talking openly about death and the deceased.t|
Think about death
Interview of Stefan Larsson, Buddhist in Gothenburgh. He is neither a lama nor a monk but a dedicated layman in a Tibetan Buddhist compound. His function in the compound is as a speaker and in some ways a teacher.
He has nit been to a Buddhist burial, but knows a bit about it.
What happens when you die?
What happens with the soul/mind and body when you die?
What rituals/ rites and traditions are used when you die?
What rituals/ rites and traditions are used when you are buried?
Shuld you be buried at a special place or in a special manner?
Does different death causes give different burials?
Symbols of death? + meanings?
Who takes care of the burial?
Anything you think is specially interesting?
Burial/ cremation or something else?
How does a typical burial look like?
Surrounding the grave?
Birds who eat the body?
What is left to the family?
– Suicide is not good for your karma because you don’t only hurt your self , but also other feeling persons. The people around you, friends and family. So it effects your ability to choose your next life and to be enlightened.
Whats your view of death and what happens when you die?
– Every feeling thing has a conscious, the body is the container which you use in your life.
– Life is a preparation for Bard, the state between death and the next reincarnation. In Bardo you choose to reincarnate, to seas to exist or if you are enlightened, move to Theravada ( tex Thailand and Burma ) or Mahayana (Tex. Japan, Tibet Mongolia). Though you don’t do this in Tibetan Buddhism before all feeling things are enlightened, when they are you all move to Teravada togeather. Therefore your mission as an enlightened is to help other to get enlightened. This is done by teaching and so on.
– In Bardo can last for 49 days and the first three days are crucial, your body should not be moved at all and if possible be positioned in a white clean and calm room, laying down on his right side. The area around his top of the head, during this time. There should be no painkillers or medicine before death because you shouldn’t affect your consciousness, this is the same reason as for the white calm room and not to move the body. It should be peaceful. You can ask for a monk, nun or a lama for ”Pawa” during your dying time, this is a special ritual to reed mantra for the deceased and helps the mind to find peace in the dying and at Burda.
– If a lama is dying all of the lamas who can, come to the dying and do special rites and rituals. We don’t really know what they do but its connected with finding out where his next life will be. He leaves hints of this in some way, the reason to why you want to find out where he will be reborn is to get there to be thought by him.
– The burial docent matter, where you want sort of. You usually choose cremation but it is not necessary in sweden, Promession sound really good because it helps life and through this helps your karma. But it is usually in connection with the compound, mantras are usually read during the burial. The soil composition (jordsättning) is important concerning the ashes but the gravestone is not so important.
– If you can yous should leave behind things which generates karma in a long prospective for example teachings.
– In stockholm they have a Buddhist burial site which is a part of StrandKyrkogården (hard translation: beach cemetqary).
Grave place / grave stone?
– -What evert you want, docent really matter.
Can you have personalized funerals?
– If it bothers the Bardo time, its not good so no. Or it docent matter!
Who takes care of the burial?
– The compound does.
Is there any specially interesting symbols concerning death or funeral?
– Google it!
After getting rid of the impure (najis) elements that are on the body of the dead person (e.g., blood, semen, etc.), the corpse has to be given three ablutions as follows:
1. First wash it with sidr water. That is, water to which a little of sidr has been added.
2. The second wash is with camphour water. That is, water to which a little bit of camphour has been added.
3. The third wash is with pure water.
It is necessary that the ablution given to the corpse be of the tartibi kind: that is, the body should be washed in proper sequence with the head and the neck first, then the right side of the body, and then the left side.
The person washing the corpse must be of the same gender as the dead person. So, a male should wash a male corpse, and a female should wash a female corpse. However, husband and wife are allowed to perform ablution to one another; although it is better that the washing be done with the body covered with a sheet of cloth. If a person of the same gender is not available, then, based on obligatory precaution, those of the opposite gender who are mahram to the deceased can perform it. Mahram means those relations with whom marriage is forbidden because of blood relationship or nursing (suckling) relationship or marriage, like brother and sister [or son-in-law and mother-in-law]. However, it is better that the washing be done with the body covered with a sheet of cloth. Unity of gender is not required when giving ablution to a corpse of a child that had not reached the age of discerning the right and wrong.
Based on obligatory precaution, the person performing ablution must be a believer (mu’min). If neither a mu’min of the same gender as the deceased is available nor a mahram [even of the opposite gender], it is permissible that a Muslim of the same gender can wash the deceased. If even a Muslim is not available, then the deceased can be washed by an Ahlul Kitãb person [that is, a Jew, a Christian or a Zoroastrian] of the same gender with the condition that the person should first wash himself and then perform ablution to the corpse. If even an Ahlul Kitab person of the same gender is not available, the duty of performing ablution to the corpse is lifted, and the deceased should be buried without it.
“In migration, death revitalizes a threat against a group maintenance that people constantly experience. It is therefore likely that a social group in exile will use funerary rituals in order to reinforce ethnic or cultural identity.”
Reimers, E 1999, Death and identity: Graves and funerals as cultural communication, Vol. 4 Issue 2, p149, Sweden, sited on 7th September 2011.
Judaism considers suicide to be a form of “self-murder” and thus a Jew who commits suicide is denied some important after-death privileges: no eulogies should be held for that person, and burial in the main section of the Jewish cemetery is normally not allowed.
However, in recent times, most people who die by suicide have been deemed to be the unfortunate victims of depression or of a serious mental illness. Under this interpretation, their act of “self-murder” is not deemed to be a voluntary act of self-destruction, but rather the result of an involuntary condition. They have therefore been looked upon as having died of causes beyond their control.